"He who believes in freedom of the will has never loved and never hated."
Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach
Each religion, so dear to those whose life it sanctifies, and fulfilling so necessary a function in the society that has adopted it, necessarily contradicts every other religion, and probably contradicts itself.
~George Santayana
“If you can't see it, hear it, touch it, taste it, smell it, measure it, observe it, understand it or verify it… Worship it!”
~???~
"You can't disprove the theory of God. The power of science is uncertainty. Everything is uncertain, but science can define that uncertainty. That's why science makes progress and religion doesn't."
~Lawrence Krauss~
"O Lord, I want to thank you that I was born in the West and not some other God-forsaken place, and that I was able to become a Christian by default. I'm thankful that I don't have to think hard about what I believe. I can accept without a second thought everything that's fed to me, and that I can support the status quo with a clear conscience without interrupting my comfortable way of life. You've made me what I am today without any effort on my part. I haven't had to think, question or change a thing, and for that I'm truly grateful."
~David Hayward~
As people become more intelligent they care less for preachers and more for teachers
~Robert G. Ingersoll~
Whenever we teach our children that groundless faith is a virtue, we pave the way for groundless violence
~Carrie Poppy~
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
~Epicurus~
Nearly every American will know of more atheists at the end of 2011 than they do today, as coming out as an atheist becomes cool. Yes. Cool
~David Silverman~
I am proud to have been in a business that gives pleasure, creates beauty, and awakens our conscience, arouses compassion, and perhaps most importantly, gives millions a respite from our so violent world.
~Audrey Hepburn~
There is not enough love and goodness in the world to permit us to give any of it away to imaginary beings.
~Friedrich Nietzsch~
You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
Mae West
One way to stop a runaway horse is to bet on him
~Jeffrey Bernard~
When you think about it, our politicians do play god, in the sense that they're not believed in by the vast majority of the public any more, they haven't done anything demonstrably useful for absolutely ages, and they keep employing members of their own family in influential positions. I'm not saying Jesus wasn't the best man for the job, I'm just saying it would have been nice if there had been a little more transparency in the recruitment process.
~Andy Zaltzman~
Organised religion is most concerned with self-preservation
~Adam Rutherford~
It's not God I worry about. It's the self-important, pompous, power-seeking old fossils who claim to speak for him
~Anonymous~
Grief is the price we pay for love.
~Queen Elizabeth II~
The problem with religion, because it's been sheltered from criticism, is that it allows people to believe en masse what only idiots or lunatics could believe in isolation
~Sam Harris
What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance . . . Ask yourself: how has "elitism" become a bad word in American politics? There is simply no other walk of life in which extraordinary talent and rigorous training are denigrated. We want elite pilots to fly our planes, elite troops to undertake our most critical missions, elite athletes to represent us in competition and elite scientists to devote the most productive years of their lives to curing our diseases. And yet, when it comes time to vest people with even greater responsibilities, we consider it a virtue to shun any and all standards of excellence. When it comes to choosing the people whose thoughts and actions will decide the fates of millions, then we suddenly want someone just like us, someone fit to have a beer with, someone down-to-earth—in fact, almost anyone, provided that he or she doesn't seem too intelligent or well educated.
~Sam Harris~
My creed is this: Happiness is the only good. The place to be happy is here. The time to be happy is now. The way to be happy is to help make others so.
~Charles J. Ingersoll~
There is no need for us to gather every day, or every seven days, or on any high and auspicious day, to proclaim our rectitude or to grovel and wallow in our unworthiness. We atheists do not require any priests, or any hierarchy above them, to police our doctrine.
~Christopher Hitchens~
Babies die in ditches every day, yet God helps Hollywood stars win trophies ~ Catherine Deveny
No diet will remove all the fat from your body because the brain is entirely fat. Without a brain you might look good, but all you could do is run for public office
~ Covert Bailey~
Many of us saw religion as harmless nonsense. Beliefs might lack all supporting evidence but, we thought, if people needed a crutch for consolation, where's the harm? September 11th changed all that.
~Richard Dawkins~
Religion is ultimately dependent on belief in invisible beings, inaudible voices, intangible entities, undetectable forces, and events and judgements that happen after we die. It therefore has no reality check and it is therefore uniquely armored against criticism, questioning, and self-correction ~Greta Christina
I believe in the religion of reason - the gospel of this world; in the development of the mind, in the accumulation of intellectual wealth, to the end that man may free himself from superstitious fear, to the end that he may take advantage of the forces of nature to feed and clothe the world.
~Robert G. Ingersoll
Religion has nothing to do with morality, and is all about power fueled by superstition ~ Anonymous
The pleasure of hating, like a poisonous mineral, eats into the heart of religion, and turns it to rankling spleen and bigotry; it makes patriotism an excuse for carrying fire, pestilence, and famine into other lands: it leaves to virtue nothing but the spirit of censoriousness, and a narrow, jealous, inquisitorial watchfulness over the actions and motives of others. What have the different sects, creeds, doctrines in religion been but so many pretexts set up for men to wrangle, to quarrel, to tear one another in pieces about, like a target as a mark to shoot at?
~ William Hazlit – On the Pleasure of Hating
We have tried for over a thousand years, as a species, teaching people that killing people and holding others below yourself, and being indifferent to the suffering of others was wrong because God said so. I think we can firmly conclude that that strategy was a dismal failure. Instead, the zeal created by religious conviction has led people to hurt others in the name of God.
~ M. LeBlanc
If proselytisers had genuine faith they would at least tone down the proselytism. Surely the God they believe in has the power, hypothetically speaking, to move the hearts of unbelievers without their having to be argued, bribed, or bludgeoned into doctrinal submission first.
~ Barbara O'Brien
Inspired by the Pope's recent call to remember our country's Christian roots I was wondering which particular roots we should return to. Burning Protestants or hanging Roman Catholic priests? Requiring Dissenters to live 10 miles from the City of London, or Roman Catholics 5 miles? And if we decide to execute the Archbishop of Canterbury should we burn him like Cranmer or behead him like Laud?
~ Mark Francis
Coming out as an atheist can have serious real-world consequences. Parents get denied custody of their children for being atheists. People get harassed and vandalized by their neighbors for being atheists. Teachers get suspended for being atheists. Teenagers get harassed and suspended from school for being atheists. Politicians whip up anti-atheist fear to try to get elected. (And that’s just in the US. I’m not even talking about parts of the world where atheism is a crime, punishable by imprisonment or death.)
~ Greta Christina
Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning
~ Bill Gates
Morality is not the monopoly of any faith: an atheist can be more ethical than a religious person. At the end of the day, what matters is that humans behave with consideration and decency, and avoid imposing their beliefs on others
~ Irfan Husain
The greatest intellectual framework that the human intellect has ever generated is the scientific method. On so many levels, it has freed us from the shackles of barbaric, divisive, and infantile superstition. Yet, all presidential candidates parade their faiths as though it were a virtue to believe in virgin births, burning bushes, and flying horses.
~Gad Saad
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
~Susan B. Anthony~
No opinion should be protected from criticism simply by virtue of being religiously held.
~Richard Dawkins~
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
~Bertrand Russell~
The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
~Douglas Adams~
The gods offer no rewards for intellect. There was never one yet that showed any interest in it.
~Mark Twain~
One can appreciate and treasure the symmetry and grandeur of the ancient Greek Parthenon without needing any share in the cults of Athena or Eleusis, or the imperatives of Athenian imperialism, just as one may listen to Mozart or admire Chartres and Durham without any nostalgia for feudalism, monarchism, and the sale of indulgences.
~Christopher Hitchens~
The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.
~Sam Harris~
We live, after all, in a world where illusions are sacred and truth profane.
~Tariq Ali
In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a "non-alchemist." We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.
~Sam Harris~
It is taboo in our society to criticize a persons religious faith... these taboos are offensive, deeply unreasonable, but worse than that, they are getting people killed. This is really my concern. My concern is that our religions, the diversity of our religious doctrines, is going to get us killed. I'm worried that our religious discourse- our religious beliefs are ultimately incompatible with civilization.
~Sam Harris~
The first step is to measure whatever can be easily measured. This is O.K. as far as it goes. The second step is to disregard that which can’t be measured or give it an arbitrary quantitative value. This is artificial and misleading. The third step is to presume that what can’t be measured easily isn’t very important. This is blindness. The fourth step is to say that what can’t easily be measured doesn’t really exist. This is suicide.
~Daniel Yankelovich
The universe is 13.7 billion years old, the Earth 4.6 billion. A mere 2,000 years ago, at a time of great ignorance and superstition, some Middle Eastern men wrote some books. With respect, does it never strike you as absurd to use them as proof of a benevolent and watchful God?
~Anon~
A truly liberal society guarantees the freedom of all religions, but it accepts the tyranny of none. People must be free to live without threat or fear. To say the things, write the words and live the lives they choose. Does that offend some people? Yes, of course. But the price of freedom is the risk of offence. And, for me, that price is always worth paying.
~Ming Campbell~
Religions are, by definition, metaphors after all: God is a dream, a hope, a woman, an ironist, a father, a city, a house of many rooms, a watchmaker who left his prize chronometer in the desert, someone who loves you - even, perhaps, against all evidence, a celestial being whose only interest is to make sure your football team, army, business, or marriage thrives, prospers and triumphs over all opposition.
~Neil Gaiman~
When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!
~George Carlin~
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company
~Mark Twain~
O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it...
~Mark Twain~
Militant Christians bomb abortion clinics. Militant Muslims fly planes into skyscrapers. Militant Atheists write strongly worded comment pieces? So let's stop this 'militant' nonsense shall we?
~Anon~
Seeing a murder on television... can help work off one's antagonisms. And if you haven't any antagonisms, the commercials will give you some.
~Alfred Hitchcock~
Since we are often told that god is ineffable and that it is impossible to know his mind it is quite astonishing the number of people that then proceed to tell you exactly what he thinks.
~Anon~
If there were in the world today any large number of people who desired their own happiness more than they desired the unhappiness of others, we could have paradise in a few years.
~Bertrand Russell~
Americans will put up with anything provided it doesn't block traffic.
~Dan Rather~
There's an infinite number of things that some people at one time or another have believed in, and an infinite number of things that nobody has believed in. If there's not the slightest reason to believe in any of those things, why bother? The onus is on somebody who says, I want to believe in God, Flying Spaghetti Monster, fairies, or whatever it is. It is not up to us to disprove it.
~Richard Dawkins~
Religion attacks us in our deepest integrity by saying we wouldn't be able to make a moral decision without it, and that a supernatural dictatorship is our only hope. That makes us all into serfs.
~Christopher Hitchens~
Thinkers of the Enlightenment, a set of new intellectual attitudes that remade Western culture in the 17th and 18th centuries, set out to understand the world and themselves through reason rather than religion. Their ideas led to massive advances in science, economics and commerce, the arts and human liberty, which underpin our present prosperity and social freedoms.
~Ayaan Hirsi Ali~
Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the streets after them.
~Bill Vaughan~
The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting.
~Charles Bukowski~
The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear.
~Herbert Agar~
When evidence conflicts with cherished beliefs, most people are happier to explain away even the most compelling data rather than abandon their beliefs.
~Richard Wiseman~
If morality comes from religion, why is it normal for chimpanzees, all tribal peoples and non-believers to feel empathy for others, to practice fairness, and to remain loyal to relatives and friends?
~Anthony Layng~
A strongly held belief does not automatically deserve respect ~ConversationalAtheist.com~
A reluctance to accept the importance of reason is easy to explain. To ignore reason is to avoid a sense of personal responsibility, which makes it easy to explain everything that you see in terms of the tenets of your 'faith', be it religious, political or economic in origin.
~Robert Hall~
Religious fundamentalisms are not only found in every region and religion, but they are also becoming increasingly visible at the international level in, for example, the international human rights system.
~Cassandra Balchin~
I am as firmly convinced that religions do harm as I am that they are untrue.
~Bertrand Russell~
Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.
~John Maynard Keynes~
My creed is this: Happiness is the only good. The place to be happy is here. The time to be happy is now. The way to be happy is to help make others so.
~Charles J. Ingersoll~
History: An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools.
~Ambrose Bierce~
Blasphemy is an epithet bestowed by superstition upon common sense.
~Robert G. Ingersoll!
This Beach Called Life - aka_lol's blog 
i cant complain about my FLOW service… its probably coz the ppl in my area are not tech savy or they settle for bmobile’s service which for me has been terrible…
I put this post up as a last resort – t has been going on for months and but Flow just won’t or can’t do anything. Maybe now they will respond because it used to be so good.
flow is very poor when is comes to streaming, why is that? and with blink the speed is lowwer but the steaming is way better
OMG!!!!!!!! ….. I’ve never heard anything bad about FLOW internet before ….. actually …… is FLOW self dat everybody does be tellin me tuh switch to ….. every time I complain about BLINK!
Flow is almost always on but crawls like the line at the passport office at night.
No complaints here either. St. Augustine people killing your node. Flow probably needs to add more nodes to St. Augustine.
This is a nice article that explains it – http://adsl-cable.net/cable/index.html
Thanks Hassan, I hoped Flow would have been eager to listen to the needs of their customers but instead they seem happy with ignoring us at St. Augustine.
OMG, that’s like snail speed. Makes me remember the good old dial up days.:-)
Yep Chica, the disco era I think it was called 🙂
So Flow ent flowing?
Sometimes I think it is the fault of customers who don’t protest enough… and settle for second class or even third class treatment…
Jumbie you are right and though we complain to everybody who would listen we don’t hit these companies in the pocket. I am in the process of doing just that.
why should consumers have to resort to protesting? Flow for all intents and purposes should have their business sorted out. This is not funny anymore.
That’s really strange, you should really call them about that. Its now 7 pm Wednesday and I just did the test myself. Never had a problem with either flow or blink
Results linked as follows for Flow:
Speedtest
Ping test
I live a little further east than you do
Thanks Girlblue. I confirmed it is a St. Augustine problem but no one was able to say when or if would be fixed. I decided to give Blink a try since they changed all the cables in the area and made the place Blink TV ready.
opps put the wrong html at the wrong description but you get the idea.
man this sux. i have mobile internet that runs better than that. and around here mobile internet is the worst there is
Seriously this same thing as been happening to me, now somtimes during the day as well, i live down sando side and flow just cant preform, got a 10mb package aswell.
I have been hearing about these off-peak “overloads” that Flow’s customers are experiencing. I doubt it is a maintenance issue and it looks like more a competence issue.
My main problem with Flow is that their customer service sucks! I could not stand their take what you get attitude. Even getting the service disconnected was a problem, prompting me to take their box put it in a nice hilo bag and leave it on the teller’s desk which she said I could not do…blah. blah. blah. lady talk to my back as I walk out the door.
Blink’s customer service sucks too but for a different reason. Can’t understand the Indian accents and they are horrible at problem solving if the problem falls ouside of the, if then flowchart they use..
not only in trinidad internet sucks
My speed at the same time!
This is bad. I don’t know if Flow is suffering from capacity overload or from the lack of technical know-how to give people what they pay for. I think Flow is committing fraud and should be investigated.
I hear , i see , all the complaints why dont we all just cancel all our accounts from all bad suppliers do without until they get it right !!!!!!!!!!
change only happens with masses !!!!!
I have changed to Blink and their 2 MBPS account which is infinitely faster than Flow’s 10 MBPS. I don’t know what the masses are doing but I hope they read this blog and spread the word via blogs and Facebook. Down with the dishonesty of Flow!!
I am in Maraval and am experiencing those same issues. Worse yet is the customer service, its non-existent. They will not even pick up the phone when there is an outage (which seems to happen often). Over all I have never gotten over 5 mbps even though i am paying for 10mbps. The upload speed in particular needs to increase to offset the overly high latency rates. I used to have Blink and switched because I did not get use of my internet due to line issues at least 4 days of the week. I hope they have improved. Maybe I will switch again.
I think Flow is falling apart and in order to satay afloat they have to employ deception tactics like not answering their phone and calling a dial-up speed connection 10 MBPS.
I am with Blink for almost a month and a half with no problems expect the wireless part of the router is a complete waste of time. Linksys is best for wireless. For Internet speeds, Blink is consistently high day and night.
aka you’re right, that speedtest Flow uses is a waste of time. You’re testing your speed on from your isp to your isp? They must really think people are idiots.
I’m in Arima and have a 10Mbs package, that is worse than dialup MOST days. As for nights you might as well use smoke signals rather than trying to send an email.
Yeah Flow sucks, reminds me of TSTT before Digicel came on the scene, they could have cared less, now……hehehe, they’ll never get my business again.
Despite the millions Flow is investing in infrastructure, they operate like a hole-in-the-wall company. The public sees Flow as being poorly run with an intentional disregard for customer satisfaction. I have to say this again, but I don’t think Flow has either competent managerial or technical staff to deliver what they advertise and they operate more like snake oil pedlars than a big business. They will not be getting any of my money in the very near future.
I am in Cascade and Flow’s service Flops !!!!…The 2mb package is generally below 1mb…i.e. useless for utube…..I signed up for the 10mb package twice and they could not deliver ….first time got less than 1mb….(upgrade from 2mb to 1mb!!!! and pay more!!!Sign up NOW!!!!)…… second time it maxed out at 3mb FOR ABOUT 5 SECONDS then would fall back to less than 2 mb….reverted to the 2mb package which sucks….their tech is clueless…blame everything on spyware and viruses or hackers in tall trees!!!!!…easy way out!!!!!
Flow’s flops seem to be a nationwide thing. Blink at 2 MB is consistently around 2 MB day and night and 7 days a week. That is what Flow has to compete with. I think Flow is very dishonest in dealing with customers and I am happy the word about this practice is spreading.
is anybody getting busy signals when they makes calls,the call would not go through, not even to flow an that sucks,the gorvernment should look into this we are not getting what we pay for
Flow seems plagued with technical and competence issues and to combat these problems they make sure the CSRs can’t help customers. Flow is the perfect example of incompetence in the private sector.
YEs that is true, Imagine I wanted to get a reconnection from moving and 6 months of tilling and nothing. But have the audacity to call me and wish me a merry christmas voice mail (phone didn:t ring) “sorry we missed u”
Dishonesty and games
Central
n e 1 having Blink problems in St Augustine?
I have major issues with flow, and of course their techs are clueless, so I switched to Blink, outta the frying pan and into the fire, whereby i had a slow connection with Flow, I now have intermittent connection with BLINK. modem drops and reconnects and not getting the 10MB.
BLINK sucks, gonna have to eat some crow and go back to FLOW …lolz that rhymes
No problem with Blink in St. Augustine but my neighborhad serious problems with Flow over the last six months. He is also going to Blink next month. I am only aware of one outage with Blink which lasted less than an hour. I am on Blink for a few months now.
The St. augustine problem was a big issue, I am happy to say they fixed the issue around the beginning of june. I am using the 10mb in gustine and all is good now for streaming, torrenting etc.
The problem lasted about 6mths before they finally upgraded and fixed the issue. Very poor service during the life cycle of that issue but I made sure every flow call and complaint I made during the period was logged by the admins.
They have new rates/packages coming out in July from 5mb – 100mb speeds but the pricing has increased overall in these high times. The lowest unlimited now starts at 199.99 instead of 189.99 which was already to high for a student or low income home for internet only. There triple play packages have no concept of the savings that packages like that were designed for. In short flow is an expensive company that is not for the poor and barely for the middle class especially in these trying economic times.
Well no real problems with where I live. Or with my other family and friends that has FLOW. I think the whole issue is that FLOW only provides promised results to areas with larger populations. All other areas are either left out or fed second hand service that is more or less dependent on the probability that a portion of customers in their “preferred areas” may not be using their internet on particular days. Which is still fraud btw. But from my experience
I believe Flow is better now but I am still with TSTT so I can’t confirm. Thanks for the update.
The problem I had with Flow regarding the speed problem was the failure by the people at Flow even admit there was a problem. I will not be moving back to flow unless TSTT decides to give poor service but so far Blink is great – leaps and bounds ahead of anything Flow ever provided. It is this dishonesty by Flow which I an unwilling to put up with.
I think u must be a PR for TSTT b/band service because any one worth his/her salt and taking the position you’re taking to bad mouth a company by name should be brave enough to state his/her name. I think it cowardly of you to go about it in the manner you’re doing!!!
Says the person who comes on using an alias eh Siren. If you so want a real name and occupation why did you come under an assumed name yourself.
To make that ASSumption after reading one entry on a blog covering all sorts of different topics is indeed ASSinine and just shows what a small minded, immature and truly idiotic person you are.
Thanks, GirlBlue 😉
Siren is probably a satisfied Flow employee or related to one. What Flow must realize is that the first step in solving a problem – technical or otherwise – is to admit they have one. Ignoring customer complaints is what Flow appears to do best.
I think Flow makes an extra effort to hire incompetent people, even in their IT and PR Department. It’s so sad it has come to this.
i think that the government under the ministry of communications should be monitoring these companies to verify that they are not ripping off the citizens, the cost of internet service in trinidad is way too high, these companies making millions, their service is bad, and the citizens have to satisfy with what they get, let the government step in please……
The Telecommunications Authority of T&T probably has the power to penalize any Internet Service Provider for nonperformance. People expect value for money and the Authority should be the first one on their case but blogs are usually quicker.
Well that article on nodes was enlightening. Just throwing an idea out there. St. Augustine has a lot of internet cafes maybe that’s why customers at home suffer so much. I’ve been having this problem here at Gustin for the past year. I haven’t changed to blink because the wiring in my compound is terrible. I’m really cautious about going back to blink, cuz i’ve had a worse time with them than with flow. Customer service calls on hold for 20 mins and longer.
My neighbor is on Flow and he said the service has improved. I can’t say Blink is bad and I am happy with the service and performance so far. Only had to call them once to have the firewall removed and that was quick and painless with a Spanish accent.
In another place persons complainerd of the internet and phone service…well just yesterday flow installed, upgraded watch, talk, click, yep more than twenty four hours ago and all I can do is watch. A call was made and the usual promise to look into the complaint…still waiting. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.
Customer Service Please!!
Based on talking to people who know the insides of Flow I have to conclude that Flow is a poorly run company with very little of the technical competence they need to sell customers what they claim they have to sell. Flow is evolving into another scam-like company.
Hey ppls
I work with the company and just happened to come across this
I’m sorry to hear about the problems that you all are having
But if you can send your info to me i can see what i can get done to have these issues rectified
Send your info to swallace@columbustrinidad.com
Hmmmm
So we’ve finally downgraded our 10MB package with BLINK to the lowest 256kmps (just to keep as backup) and we switched over to FLOW 25MB package… (much cheaper than our previous blink)……..
and I kinda regretting it 😦 … it’s soooooooooo unreliable! *sighs* all I can say is that I’m so glad we didnt d/c BLINK all together, cuz not a day goes by w/o me having to switch my connection to my super slow blink while FLOW takes its merry time to snap back to life.
I do have hope tho… that maybe, just maybe, sooner than later, FLOW wud behave and start being normal
But like my bro said ‘FLOW sucks. Cheap ting not good’
I honestly don’t know how Flow is getting away with selling so much ssnake oil
If only tefing money from customers was a crime in TnT.
Hey ppls
I work with the company and just happened to come across this
I’m sorry to hear about the problems that you all are having
But if you can send your info to me i can see what i can get done to have these issues rectified. I’ll be happy to assist
Send your info to swallace@columbustrinidad.com
Now, that is a good response from Flow. Hope people take you up on it.
What about you?
Are you still having problems with your connection?
I am no longer a Flow customer for Internet Service but it is unfortunate that Flow, at the time, was either incapable or unwilling to solve the problem. I left Flow out of frustration.
Flow sucks in their delivery of almost every service they provide. Their billing system also sucks. No matter when you pay, they send you a penalty for late payment – I had to complain at least 20 times. There was a time I had to go abroad for 2 months and I wrote them to suspend the service. They charged me a basic fee for the suspended service and also charged me the full rate on top of that. They admit that it was their fault, but refused to fix the problem for years. The sad thing is that bMobile service (TSTT) also sucks in St. Augustine – more than half of my calls are dropped. Heaven help us poor banana republic natives !!
it is true Trinidad lacks the infrastructure for proper broadband connection its cus we are backward when it comes to that if u have ever experienced the the quality in Europe they have the best broad band u can ever have the line we have coming to Trinidad cannot facilitate the growing number of users it has today and every thing has to get routed through servers in Miami i tested this by using speedtest.net at least flow is better than all the rest blink isn’t even worth the toilet paper i whip my ass wit
Maybe flow has improved since I changed to Blink several months ago. So far I never had the cause to call Blink for a performance related issue and I am hoping it stays that way.
As the number of users increase and as people now stream more than browse, the undersea fiber pipes have become inadequate. I expect that upgrades are being planned as we speak but the question will always be about who will pay for it and how much will it cost. The other question is how much bandwidth will be enough.
why would you connect to a server in Tampa FL to prove a point about ur internet connection you have to use ur own country highlighted with a gold star, its obvious that if you try to connect to another server from another country ur net connection would would like that cause that isnt the host ISP so that post is totally irrelevant🙂 I had to laugh 🙂
This comment highlights a degree of ignorance of what we are really paying for.
The internet we know and use exist OUTSIDE of Trinidad, thus any test you do SHOULD be to an off island server.
WHAT is the point of getting a very high speed connection to a server in Tacarigua? You pay for 100MU connection to tacarigua and you get a 2 – 5MB out of island.
So in essence when you subscribed for the “bigger pacakge” by paying 150.00 (or whatever your prior package was) more you are not getting any major performance boost.
Flow sets up a dedication connection to a datacenter for their “speed test”, this show a great speed as per their ads. But the quality of this connection versus what they route for regular traffic is two different things altogether
There will be some moments when you acutally get what you will be paying for, but as demand grows you will get this less and less.
You hit the nail on the head!
I agree to what Thread says completely but the image you posted last year with the speeds are completely off key… data is mainly passed through the miami server for off island internet (99% of what we use) and thats what you get the real download speed roughly around a 2 MB upload/download for users regardless of their FLOW connection speed, I get a 6.1 MB / 0.25 MB upload speed normally to the servers in Trinidad (50Mb package). The point is that FLOW is using false advertising but only tech savy and people who would notice the slightest lag would actually notice anything.
Guys, there are 2 types of internet. Dedicated and Shared Internet. Most homes and small/Med use Shared Broadband internet meaning that a pool of people share a node that has internet and people can affect one another in terms of latency and speed. So you are not guaranteed the bandwidth and this goes for most of the providers – Flow and Blink. Also note it is Asymmetrical meaning a high download and a lower upload speed.
Dedicated internet is guaranteed bandwidth to NAP in Miami so if you do a bandwidth test to a server in Miami it would get what you are paying for both on download and upload. Note that is Fibre Internet and it is more costly than broadband.
So if a Blink ADSL and a FLOW cable is tested to miami both would be lower than expected.
Fedup
September 20, 2011 at 9.15pm
I want to know why I am paying for cable when I can’t watch a program when i want on the channel ion which it due to show. Why is Flow allowing channel 3 to take all the programs exclusively,
Don’t the paying customer have any rights?
I am switching to Blink Entertainment and I hope all the fedup customers do the same.
If Flow has to block it, so will Blink.
This is article may be outdated but I’m having the same issues stated & worse.
Was paying for 5mbs find it was to slow so upgraded to 25mbs n I’m getting 17down on a good day.
Lately every 2 minutes I have to restart the router cause signal keeps dropping smh.
Theyre customer service sucks big time too.
They told me is because I have an iMac that’s why It dropping.
If that was so then why my iPad or iPhone not picking up wifi either?
They think people are stone headed.
Blink hotspot sucks as well but I never tried the land line.
I live on Lady Young Road and go through constant interruptions of service. The latest of which was yesterday when the service suddenly went off after observing a truck and workmen on the pole in my area. When i called them about it they claim that the problem can’t be rectified before June 26th.
Flow still sucks, unfortunately.
Flow is really good man!
Flow is the worst ISP i have ever had the misfortune to be inflicted with. In the last 6 months since their self proclaimed “Upgrade” which they said would double the provided speed, my speed has DROPPED by 50%.and the service is up maybe 5% of the day. It constantly drops and forget loading a video from youtube – i cant even get a regular webpage to load. Disgusting internet service, and incompetent customer service – better off with blink.
flow iz shit…. Cud never get what u pay for.. Plus d damn service kp on cutting on and off, steupssssss, months nw and i tried it all so blve it…paying for 20 mb n cud barely get 5… smh
i have flow 2mb package and download speed is 270kps,i fine that slow for a service that claim they have a 100mb connection..
I think Digicel Fibre is just about to put the cat amongst the pigeons and turn the broadband market upside down! I am a Digicel business customer with a 200Mbps/50Mbps broadband package, and get 195Mbps download speedtest to Miami, New York or New Jersey nodes. They are putting cable up in residential areas too, so launch cannot be too far away.
To TSTT and FLOW Board & Executives:
There are about 16,000 students at all levels in the St. Augustine UWI area.
Installing fibre DSL would be very profitable for who does it first!
Both TSTT and FLOW have failed to serve this profitable niche of customers.
How stupid.
i have been with flow a while now and the recently advertise that you ca bump up to 30 mbps for $220.00 so i did but since december 2015 i have been getting a whooping 1.5 to 5 mbps sevral attempts to contact flow and a few hundred dollars porer i have yet to be connected to customer care i did a speed test using speedtest by ookla and tonight i was getting a really fast speed of 1.28mbps so i think flow is incapable of providing the much touted 30mbps seeing that am getting under 5 mbps for the last two months really fed up with flow ..but i got an idea maybe some of us can pool our money and open an internet provider we dont have to provide any service just take people money and dont answer the phone ..well be millionaires haa haa haa and we wil get away with it legal thiefing …politians do it all the time i dont see any of them in jail lol well i’ll be cahnging to some other internet provider soon
sorry for the spelling errors lol
12 years later and FLOW is still bad. At this point, you are basically paying for a service they themselves can’t provide. I have the highest internet package and it’s been worse. Surprisingly enough, I had Blink previously but never faced this problem before with Internet, and Blink doesn’t have “better speed”.
I rather consistent 60mbps than 120mpbs for 1hr for day and 23 mbps for the other 23 hrs.